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‘Conversation with the Candidate’ with Bernie Sanders: Online exclusive

November 4, 2019


>>CONVERSATION WITH THE
CANDIDATE” CONTINUES. ADAM: THANK YOU FOR CLICKING ON
OUR EXTENDED DIGITAL
CONVERSATION WITH THE
CANDIDATE, THE CANDIDATE BEING
SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS, THE
REIGNING CHAMPION OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY JOINING US
AND OUR NEW HAMPSHIRE VOTERS
AND WE’LL JUMP IN WITH THEIR
QUESTIONS WITH BRENDA. BRENDA: THANK YOU, SENATOR
SANDERS. MY HUSBAND PASSED WITH
ALZHEIMER’S DISEASE AFTER
LIVING WITH IT FOR 12 1/2
YEARS. MY MOTHER HAS ALZHEIMER’S AND
MY SISTER WAS DIAGNOSED LAST
SUMMER. BY 2050 IT’S ANTICIPATED 14
MILLION AMERICANS WILL HAVE
ALZHEIMER’S OR RELATED DEMENTIA
AT A PROJECTED COST OF $1.1
TRILLION IN TODAY’S DOLLARS. SO WHAT WILL YOU DO TO DEAL
WITH THIS NATIONAL PUBLIC
HEALTH CRISIS THAT IS IMPACTING
ALL OF US? BERNIE: I’M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS
AND THE QUESTION YOU’RE ASKING
I THINK IS A QUESTION MILLIONS
OF FAMILIES ARE ASKING. WE HAVE A CRISIS IN HEALTH CARE
IN GENERAL AND WE HAVE A
PARTICULAR CRISIS IN
ALZHEIMER’S, PEOPLE ARE LIVING
LONGER AND MORE PEOPLE ARE
SUFFERING FROM ALZHEIMER’S. SO I THINK FOR A START WHAT WE
HAVE TO DO IS UNDERSTAND THAT
COVERING ALL ILLNESS IS
SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE
BY THE UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT. THAT’S WHY I BELIEVE IN A
MEDICARE FOR ALL SYSTEM. AND THAT WOULD COVER OBVIOUSLY
ALZHEIMER’S. THE SECOND THING WE HAVE TO DO,
AND I KNOW THE ALZHEIMER’S
ORGANIZATIONS ARE HARD AT WORK
ON THIS, AND THAT IS WE NEED A
LOT MORE RESEARCH INTO THE
CAUSATION OF ALZHEIMER’S. I THINK SOME SUCCESS, SOME
RESEARCH HAS PROVEN TO BE
FRUITFUL BUT WE NEED A LOT
MORE. NUMBER ONE, WE COVER ALL
PEOPLE, WE COVER NURSING HOME
CARE AND SECOND OF ALL, WE DO A
LOT MORE RESEARCH INTO
UNDERSTANDING WHY THIS IS SUCH
A PREVALENT PROBLEM. ADAM: HOW DOES RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT WORK IN A SINGLE
PAYOR SYSTEM? SOME ARGUE THE INCENTIVES ARE
THERE FOR AMERICAN INNOVATION. BERNIE: I WOULD ARGUE JUST THE
OPPOSITE. WHAT ARE THE INCENTIVES RIGHT
NOW IN TERMS OF THE DRUG
COMPANIES? IT’S TO MAKE MONEY. AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO
DO IS TELL THE DRUG COMPANIES
THAT AMONG OTHER THINGS,
ALZHEIMER’S IS A MAJOR ISSUE
AND WE WANT RESEARCH TO BE DONE
ON THAT. IF YOU CHECK OUT WHERE MANY OF
THE DRUG COMPANIES ARE
INVESTING RIGHT NOW, IT’S OFTEN
ME TOO DRUGS WHICH ARE
DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE
MONEY ON THAT. I THINK ALZHEIMER’S IS ONE
CLEAR EXAMPLE, OBVIOUSLY CANCER
AND DIABETES. THESE ARE ALL TERRIBLY SERIOUS
HEALTH PROBLEMS AND WE NEED TO
INVEST IN THE RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT TO HELP US COME UP
WITH ANSWERS TO THESE TERRIBLE
ILLNESSES. ADAM: SOCIAL MEDIA QUESTION
COMING IN FROM BILL. CLIMATE CHANGE IS A MAJOR
THREAT TO THE U.S. HOW DO YOU PLAN WORKING ON
FOSSIL FUEL LOBBYISTS TO DO
ANYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO STOP
A GREEN NEW DEAL? BERNIE: GREAT QUESTION. YOU’RE NOT WORKING AROUND THE
FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, YOU WORK
THROUGH THE FOSSIL FUEL
INDUSTRY. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AS A
NATION. THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DON’T
WANT MEDICARE FOR ALL BECAUSE
THEY’RE MAKING A WHOLE LOT OF
MONEY. WALL STREET WANTS TO CHARGE YOU
25% INTEREST RATE ON YOUR
CREDIT CARDS AND THEY’RE STILL
NOT MAKING A LOT OF MONEY. THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY IS A
CASE UNTO THEMSELVES. THIS IS AN INDUSTRY THAT LIES
EVERY SINGLE DATHE SCIENTIFIC CO
LONGER DEBATES WHETHER FOSSIL
FUELS ARE THE CAUSE OF CLIMATE
CHANGE, THAT DEBATE IS OVER. WHAT THEY TELL US IS THAT WE
HAVE ALL OF 12 YEARS TO
TRANSFORM THE GLOBAL ENERGY
SYSTEM, IF WE WERE GOING TO
PREVENT IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO
THE PLANET. I HAVE FOUR KIDS, THREE OF WHOM
LIVE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND SEVEN
GRANDCHILDREN, OK. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE GOT TO DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE
THAT THIS PLANET IS HEALTHY AND
HABITABLE FOR FUTURE
GENERATIONS. ESSENTIALLY, WE NEED POLICIES,
WHICH I HAVE INTRODUCED, WHICH
SAYS, WE HAVE TO TRANSFORM OUR
ENERGY SYSTEM AWAY FROM FOSSIL
FUEL TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND
SUSTAINABLE ENERGY. WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. WE KNOW THAT WE CAN GROW
SIGNIFICANTLY, WIND POWER, SOLAR
POWER, HYDRO AND OTHER FORMS OF
SUSTAINABLE ENERGY. BUT THIS IS NO LONGER A DEBATE,
IT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO
THE PLANET. BY THE WAY, WHEN WE TRANSFORM
OUR ENERGY SYSTEM AWAY FROM
FOSSIL FUEL, WE WILL CREATE
MILLIONS OF JOBS. IN VERMONT, I WORKED VERY HARD,
WITH SUCCESS, TO BRING ENERGY
EFFICIENCY MONEY INTO OLDER
HOMES, WHERE PEOPLE SAW THE FUEL
BILLS GO DOWN BY 50%, WE REDUCE
CARBON EMISSIONS AND CREATED JOBS IN THE PROCESS. THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING
ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR, I BELIEVE
THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL,
THAT IT MAN-MADE, THAT IT IS
A HORRIFIC THREAT TO THE ENTIRE
PLANET, AND AS PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, I WOULD BE HONORED TO NOT ONLY THE
TRANSFORM THE ENERGY SYSTEM IN
THIS COUNTRY, BUT TO HELP LEAD
THE WORLD, TO BRING COUNTRIES
TOGETHER AND SAY, MAYBE WE
SHOULD NOT SPEND $1.5 TRILLION EVERY YEAR ON WEAPONS OF MASS
DESTRUCTION, BUT MAYBE WORK
TOGETHER TO SAVE THE PLANET FOR
FUTURE GENERATIONS. ADAM: NEXT QUESTION
IS FROM ELIZABETH. ELIZABETH: GOOD EVENING AND
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. SINCE THE ADVENT OF THE WAR ON
TERROR, OUR POLICE FORCES HAVE
BECOME INCREASINGLY MILITARIZED. DO YOU SUPPORT THE ARMING OF
LOCAL POLICE WITH MILITARY-GRADE
WEAPONS? IF NOT, HOW WOULD YOU PROPOSE
OUR LOCAL POLICE FORCES ENGAGE
THEIR COMMUNITIES? SEN. SANDERS: VERY GOOD. AND I SPEAK, AS SOME OF YOU
KNOW, I WAS A MAYOR IN VERMONT
FOR EIGH YEARS, AND IF I MAY
SAY, A GOOD MAYOR. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS TRY
TO ENGAGE THE POLICE IN TERMS OF
COMMUNITY POLICING, IN THE SENSE
OF MAKING PEOPLE SEE THE POLICE
AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE
THEY KNEW WHO THE POLICE OFFICER WAS, WHERE THE POLICE OFFICER
WAS TALKING TO THE COMMUNITY, TO
TH KIDS. RATHER THAN AS IT EXISTS NOW IN
SOME COMMUNITIES AS AN INVADING
ARMY WITH LARGE-SCALE MILITARY
WEAPONRY. I THINK WE NEED REFORMS OF THE
POLICE DEPARTMENT, INTEGRATE
THEM SOCIALLY INTO THE
COMMUNITIES. BUT WE ALSO NEED, MORE BROADLY
SPEAKING, FUNDAMENTAL REFORM OF
A BROKEN CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM. LET ME EXTRAPOLATE FROM
YOUR QUESTION AND TELL YOU, WE
HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN JAIL TODAY
THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH,
ALMOST 2 MILLION PEOPLE. RATHER THAN SPENDING $80 BILLION
A YEAR LOCKING UP FELLOW
AMERICANS, WE SHOULD BE
INVESTING IN YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET
THEM JOBS. TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE
EDUCATION. .
THERE IS MUCH LESS LIKELIHOOD
THAT THEY WILL BECOME INVOLVED
IN CRIME. WE DON’T NEED TO BUILD MORE
JAILS AN INCARCERATION. WOULD NEED TO INVEST IN
EDUCATION AND JOBS FOR OUR KIDS,
SOMETHING I WILL ALSO BE WORKING
VERY HARD ON.>>THANK YOU. ADAM: A QUI FOLLOW. THE FEDERAL PRISON POPULATION IS
THE TARGET OF A LOT OF POLICY
REFORM EFFORTS. SOME PEOPLE WHEN 50% OF THEM OUT
OF PRISON, BUT NOT ALL 50%
REPRESENT THE DRUG CRIMES BUT
MOST PEOPLE TALK ABOUT. THE NEW BELIEVE IN THE 50% GOAL? WHAT KIND OF INMATES SHOULD BE
RELEASED? SEN. SANDERS: THE CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD NOT BE
IN JAIL, WHO SHOULD BE RELEASED. WE HAVE A VERY HIGH RATE OF
RECIDIVISM, WHICH MEANS THAT
WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE JAIL, THEY
DON’T HAVE THE EDUCATION OR THE
JOBS, OR THE HOUSING, AND THEY
FALL BACK INTO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT GOT THEM INTO JAIL IN THE
FIRST PLACE. WE NOW HAVE 400,000 PEOPLE IN
JAIL, YOU KNOW WHY, TODAY,
BECAUSE THEY ARE POOR AND THEY
CAN’T AFFORD CASH BAIL. WE HAVE A WAR ON DRUGS WHICH HAS
BEEN A DISASTER IN THIS COUNTRY. I SUPPORT — I HAVE SUPPORTED
THE LEGALIZATION THAT YOU HAVE
TO SUPPORT THE LEGALIZATION OF
MARIJUANA. BUT IT IS A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS. RIGHT NOW, WE CAN DO A LOT
BETTER IN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING
THE PRISON POPULATION. I DON’T KNOW THAT THERE IS A
MAGIC NUMBER. OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON’T WANT
DANGEROUS PEOPLE OUT. BUT IF A LOT OF PEOPLE COULD BE
RELEASED, WHY N? ADAM: THE NEXT QUESTION COMES
FROM ETHAN KARABASSI.>>THANK YOU, SENATOR. THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION SEEMS
TO TAKE AN ACTIVE APPROACH
AGAINST SCIENCE AND SCIENCE
-BASED THOUGHTS. WHAT ARE YOUR IDEAS TO GET THE
NATION TO START LOOKING AT
POLICY WITH A SCIENCE FOCUSED
LENS? SEN. SANDERS: HERE IT IS, I
BELIEVE IN SCIENCE! [LAUGHTER]
I DON’T WANT TO SPEND MY WHOLE
LIFE TALKING ABOUT TRUMP, BUT
AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE IDEA
THAT TIME AFTE TIME, MOST
NOTABLY, WITH REGARD TO CLIMATE CHANGE, HE I REJECTING WHAT THE
SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY IS TELLING
US AS WELL AS THE MANY OTHER
AREAS DEALING WITH THE
ENVIRONMENT. I JUST DON’T KNOW HOW YOU RUN
GOVERNMENT WHEN
YOU’RE NOT LISTENING TO THE
PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THE SUBJECT
IS ABOUT, WHEN YOU ARE NOT
ABSORBING THE DATA THAT YOU HAVE TO BE LOOKING ATP SADLY, WE HAVE
A PRESIDENT WHO IS NO. .
OBVIOUSLY, I WILL GIVE HER THE
ANSWER YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM ANY
CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF THE
UNIT STATES, THAT YOU BRING
THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE ON ANY ISSUE, WHETHER IT IS CLIMATE
CHANGE, THE ECONOMY, ANYTHING
ELSE. HEALTH CARE. WE BRING THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE
PEOPLE IN WE GET THE IDEAS OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND DEVELOP
POLICIES FROM THAT, NOT ONLY TO
DEVELOP POLICIES BECAUSE THEY
MAKE THE HEADS OF LARGE CORPORATIONS RICHER. ADAM: NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM
KEIT RADECIC.>>THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
TONIGHT. I HAVE BEEN ON THE FOR-PROFIT
SIDE OF HEALTH CARE FOR ABOUT 20
YEARS NOW. FROM A SINGLE-PAYER ENVIRONMENT,
HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT THE MOST
QUALIFIED CANDIDATES WILL STILL
PURSUE A CAREER IN MEDICINE IF
ALL ENTREPRENEURSHIP IS REMOVE
SEN. SANDERS: IT IS A FAIR QUESTION. LET ME GIVE YOU THE OTHER SIDE
OF THAT POINT, AND YOU MAY KNOW
THIS ALL OF YOU MAY KNOW THIS,:
WE HAVE A LOT OF DOCTORS OUT
THERE, ESPECIALLY PRIMARY CARE
PHYSICIANS WHO ARE BECOMING BURNED OUT AND DEMORALIZED,
BECAUSE THEY WENT TO MEDICAL
SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO
HELP PEOPLE AND MAKE PEOPLE
WELL. YET EVERY TIME THEY TRY TO DO A
THERAPY OR PRESCRIBE A DRUG, YOU
HAVE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES
TELLING THEM WHAT THEY CAN AND
CAN’T DO. A LOT OF DEMORALIZATION AMONG
DOCTORS AND BURNOUT. I THINK WHAT YOU WANT, THE BEST
YOU CAN DO, I THINK, IN HEALTH
CARE, IS FIRST OF ALL GET THE
NECESSARY NUMBER OF DOCTORS WE
NEED. WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH RIGHT NOW. SECOND OF ALL, GET THEM INTO THE
AREAS WHERE WE NEED THEM THE
MOST. THERE ARE RURAL
COUNTIES ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY
WHERE WE HAVE NO DOCTORS. WE CAN DO THAT. BUT I THINK GIVING DOCTORS THE
EDUCATION THEY NEED, BY THE WAY,
AND NOT SADDLING THEM WITH HUGE
DEBT. PEOPLE LEAVE MEDICAL SCHOOL WITH
$300,000, $400,000 I DEBT. WE WANT YOUNG AND MOTIVATED
DOCTORS WHO ARE WELL-TRAINED,
WHOSE HEART IS NOT TO MAKE A LOT
OF MONEY, BUT — THEY DESERVE
GOOD MONEY, BUT TO BASICALLY
PROVIDE THE QUALITY HEALTH CARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE. ADAM: A QUICK FOLLO THEIR. WHAT HAPPENS IN THE TRANSITION
TO MEDICARE FOR ALL TO PEOPLE
WHO WORK IN THE PRIVATE
INSURANCE INDUSTRY? SEN. SANDERS: WE PUT INTO OUR
LEGISLATION A VERY SUBSTANTIAL
SUM OF MONEY FOR RETRAINING. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, RIG NOW
, THE CRISIS I JUST MENTIONED,
THAT IN MANY PARTS OF THIS
COUNTRY, RURAL AMERICA,
ESPECIALLY, WE DON’T HAVE ENOUGH
DOCTORS, NURSES, NURSE PRACTITIONERS, WHAT WE WANT IS
TO BRING PEOPLE INTO HEALTH CARE
WHO WILL NOT JUST BE SENDING OUT
ELSE AND BADGERING YOU —
SENDING OUT BILLS AND BADGERING
YOU WITH A HOSPITAL BILL. WE WANT PEOPLE WHO WILL ACTUALLY
BE WORKING IN IMPROVING THE
LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ILL. RIGHT NOW WE ARE WASTING ABOUT
$500 BILLION A YEAR ON
ADMINISTRATION. NOT PROVIDING HEAL CARE. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS
MEDICARE FOR ALL IS A MUCH MORE
COST-EFFECTIVE APPROACH. WILL THERE BE A TRANSITION? THE ANSWER IS YES. IT IS THE SAME ISSUE AS CLIMATE
CHANGE. I’M AN ENEMY OF COAL MINERS, NOT
AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE
WHO SEE THEIR JOBS DISAPPEAR, WE
PROTECT THEM WITH INVESTMENTS IN
THEIR COMMUNITYM EXTENDED
UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITSM EXTENDED
HEALTH CARE BENEFITS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE
WANT TO INVEST IN HEAL CARE. NOT IN BUREAUCRACY,
ADMINISTRATION OR IN PEOPLE
PUSHING PAPER. ADAM: THE NEXT QUESTION COMES
FROM DANBERGERON. DAN: SENATOR SANDERS, I’M GOING
TO READ AN EXCERPT FROM A
PUBLICLY TRADED QUARTERLY
REPORT. HERE WE GO. FOR THE 9 MONTHS ENDED MARCH 31,
2019, REVENUES INCREASED TO
$759.4 MILLION FROM $678.9
MILLIO
QUITE A JUMP. OPERATING INCOME INCREASED TO
$42 MILLION FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. $15 MILLIONTHIS PUBLICLY TRADED
COMPANY’S NAME IS K-12.COM, AND
PUBLIC FUNDS ACCOU FOR SOME OF
THE REVENUE FROM THAT FOR-PROFIT
EDUCATIO COMPANY. THE FOR-PROFIT INDUSTRY, THE
FOR-PROFIT EDUCATION INDUSTRY
HAS DONE VERY WELL UNDER
SECRETARY DEVOS, THE SECRETARY
OF EDUCATION. AS A MEMBER OF THE MANCHESTER
SCHOOL BOARD, PLEASE DESCRIBE A
SANDERS ADMINISTRATION PUBLIC
EDUCATIO FUNDING, AND HOW THAT
WOULD AFFECT OUR LOCAL POLICIES. THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE. SEN. SANDERS: THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION. SUCH AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FOR-PROFIT
CHARTER SCHOOLS WHERE WALL
STREET FOLKS AND OTHERS ARE
MAKING A LOT OF MONEY. WE JUST INTRODUCED A PROGRAM OF
COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHICH
ELIMINATES FOR-PROFIT CHARTER
SCHOOLS IN THIS COUNTRY. WE SHOULD BE INVESTING HEAVILY
IN PUBLIC EDUCATION. THINK WHERE COMMUNITIES WANT
TO DO EXPERIMENTAL WORK WITH
LOCALLY CONTROLLED CHARTER
SCHOOLS, THAT IS FINE. BUT I DON’T THINK PUBLIC
EDUCATION, THAT TAXPAYERS MONEY
SHOULD BE GOING TO MAKE CEOS IN
PRIVATE CORPORATIONS MUC
RICHER. LET ME ALSO SAY, IN TERMS OF
PUBLIC EDUCATION, WE HAVE A LOT
OF PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY. ONE OF THE THINGS WHICH BREAKS
MY HEART, BECAUSE I WENT TO
PUBLIC SCHOOL IN NEW YORK CITY,
WE HAVE GOT TO REDEFINE WHAT
EDUCATION MEANS IN THIS COUNTRY. WE HAVE TO SAY THAT THERE IS
ALMOST NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT
THAN OUR KIDS GETTING EQUALITY
— A QUALI EDUCATION. WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO ATTRACT
THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST YOUNG
PEOPLE TO GET INTO TEACHING. BECAUSE THERE ARE VERY FEW
PROFESSIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE
MORE IMPORTANT THAN EDUCATING
THE NEXT GENERATION. YOU KNOW THAT ALL OVER THIS
COUNTRY, WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE
WHO SAY, DON’T RIDICULOUS. WHY WOULD I WANT TO WORK AS A
TEACHER, TAKE MONEY OUT OF MY
OWN POCKET TO BUY SCHOOL
SUPPLIES. THEN DRY. DRIVE UBER TO MAKE AN X-RAY
INCOME FOR MY FAMILY? WE HAVE TO RAISE SALARIES FOR
OUR TEACHERS, ATTRACT THE BEST
INTO THE TEACHING PROFESSION,
AMONG MANY OTHER CHANGES. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WE ARE
FALLING BEHIND MANY, MANY OTHER
COUNTRIES IN TERMS OF THE KIND
OF SCORES OUR KIDS ARE GETTING
IN MATH, SCIENCE, READING ETC.. THIS IS THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY
IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. AND WE MUST DO THAT. ADAM: NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM
LOREN SELIG.>>I WANT TO GO BACK TO AN ISSUE
YOU TOUCHED UPON EARLIER, TO DO
WITH THE JUDICIARY. THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER
BLOCKED HIM THE NOMINATION OF
JUDGES FOR MANY YEARS. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT YOU
WOULD DO TO PROTECT THE
JUDICIARY. SEN. SANDERS: YOU ARE RIGHT. WHEN OBAMA, AS YOU KNOW,
NOMINATED A MODERATE JUSTICE,
MERRICK GARLAND, IN AN UGLY WAY,
I THINK, WHAT MITCH MCCONNELL,
THE LEADER OF THE REPUBLICAN
SENATE, BLOCKED THE VOTE. THAT WAS REALLY NOT ACCEPTABLE. NOW, AS YOU IMPLICATE QUITE
CORRECTLY, WHEN I GO TO
WASHINGTON, YOU KNOW I AM DOING
ALL THE TIME, I AM VOTING
AGAINST RIGHT-WING JUDGES. THAT IS WHAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE
TRYING TO DO. WHAT I WILL TELL YOU, AS
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
I WILL BE APPOINTING JUDGES WHO
RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND THE
CONSTITUTION. WHO UNDERSTAND THAT JUDGES HAVE
TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE
NEEDS OF WORKING PEOPLE AND THE
ENVIRONMENT, NOT JUST CORPORATE
PROFITS. ALSO, GIVEN THE ATTACKS WE HAVE
SEEN IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS ON A
WOMAN’S RIGHT TO CONTROL HER OWN
BODY, I HAVE BEEN ASKED WHETHER
THAT IS A LITMUS TEST, IT IS. GIVEN THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY, I
WILL NOT APPOINT ANY — I WILL
NOT NOMINATE ANYBODY TO THE
SUPREME COURT WHO IS NOT 100% IN
SUPPORT OF PROTECTING ROE V. WADE.>>THANK YOU. ADAM: A QUICK FOLLOW ON THAT,
SENATOR. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO AS
PRESIDENT TO PROTECT ABORTION? SEN. SANDERS THERE IS. THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE. RIGHT NOW, IT IS A
STATE-BY-STATE POSITION, BUT I
THINK NATIONAL LEGISLATION TO
SUPPORT WHAT ROE V. WADE SAYS,
AND THAT IS THAT A WOMAN HAS THE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO CONTROL HER OWN BODY. THIS REALLY IS AN OUTRAGE. I THINK WE NEED FEDERAL
LEGISLATION TO DO JUST THAT. WE NEED JUDGES WHO WILL SUPPORT
THAT. WE NEED STATES TO GO FORWARD. VERMONT, I THINK, IS IN THE
PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT
RIGHT REMAINS ABSOLUTELY FIRM. ADAM: NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM
GEORGE MATTHEWS. GEORGE MATTHEWS: THANK YOU FOR
BEING HERE. I BELIEVE THE CURRENT OCCUPANT
OF THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DECIMATED
OUR INTERNATIONAL STANDING AS AN
ALLY. PLEASE TELL ME HOW YOU WOULD
APPROACH FOREIGN POLICY AND THE
SECURITY OF OUR GREAT NATION? SEN. SANDERS:. I AGREE WITH YOUR BASIC PREMISE. IT IS, AGAIN, WHEN YOU TALK
ABOUT TRUMP’S, YOU ALWAYS USE
THE WORD “UNBELIEVABLE” UNTIL
THE NEXT DAY COMES AND IT IS
OFTEN MORE UNBELIEVABLE. WHO WOULD THINK HE WOULD HAVE A
PRESIDENT WHO PALS UP WITH KIM
JONG-UN, A TERRIBLE DICTATOR. DO WE WANT WAR WITH NORTH KOREA,
OF COURSE NOT. DO WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM,
YES. BUT YOU DON’T PRAISE KIM
JONG-UN, YOU DON’T BRING THE
LEADER OF HUNGARY, AND
ANTI-SEMITE AND AUTHORITARIAN,
INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AND TALK
ABOUT WHAT A NICE GUY HE IS. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU ATTACK
CANADA AND GERMANY, AND THE
UNITED KINGDOM, OUR LONG-TERM
ALLIES. I THINK THE WE HAVE GOT TO DO IS
WE NEED A PRESIDENT WHO
BELIEVES, WHICH TRUMP DOES NOT,
IN THE DEMOCRACY, HUMA RIGHTS. WHO IS REACHING AROUND THE
WORLD. TO BRI COUNTRIES TOGETHER, WHO
DOES NOT SUPPO THE BRUTAL
DICTATORSHIP IN SAUDI ARABIA, BY
THE WAY, WHICH TREATS WOMEN AS
THIRD CLASS CITIZENS. YOU NEED A PRESIDENT THAT TELLS
THE WORLD THAT DEMOCRACY IS THE
FUTURE, NOT AUTHORITARIANISM. THAT CONDEMNS COUNTRIES WHO ARE
ATTACKING HUMAN RIGHTS. WHO STRENGTHENS THE BOND WE HAVE
HAD WITH OUR LONG-TERM ALLIES. THAT WORKS WITH OUR ADVERSARIES,
TRIES TO BRING PEACE TO THIS
WORLD BUT DOES NOT PRAISE
DICTATORS AND EMPTY DEMOCRATIC
TYRANTS. ADAM: A QUICK FOLLOW ON THAT. OBVIOUSLY, THE COMMANDER IN
CHIEF HAS MOST POWERFUL WEAPONS
AT HIS OR HER DISPOSAL, NUCLEAR
WEAPONS. DO YOU FEEL HE WOULD BE CAPABLE
OF USING NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN
DEFENSE OF THE COUNTRY? SEN. SANDERS: OH YEAH!, ANYTIME. , CAPABLE OF BLOWING UP THE
WORLD? IT IS A GREAT IMMORAL QUESTION. THE ANSWER IS NOT WHETHER I
WOULD BE CAPABLE OF BLOWING UP
THE ENTIRE WORLD, WHAT KIND OF
QUESTI IS THAT? I HOPE NO PRESIDENT EVER HAS TO
ANSWER THAT QUESTION? THE REAL QUESTION IS SHOULD WE
GET RID OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS THAT
ARE THREATENING THE ENTIRE
PLANET? I WOULD GET RID OF THAT. MORE
ON THE MILITARY AND ON NUCLEAR
WEAPONS. I WANT TO SEE US NOT ABROGATE
TREATIES WITH IRAN OR ANY PLACE
ELSE, WHICH HAVE CONTROLLED THE
GROWTH OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. I WANT TO SEE US BE AGGRESSIVE
AND BRING THE WORLD TOGETHER
AGAIN, TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN
SUBSTANTIALLY NOT ONLY REDUCE
MILITA WEAPONS WORLDWIDE BUT
ALSO HOW TO REDUCE THE ONGOING THREAT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS. LET ME SAY, WHILE WE ARE ON TH
SUBJECT I HAVE BEEN CRITICIZED
RECENTLY, BY THE MAINSTREAM
MEDIA FOR MY VIEWS ON FOREIGN
POLICY. BUT AS I HAVE SAID RECENTLY, I
WILL NOT APOLOGIZE. PEOPLE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WILL
HAVE TO JUDGE. .
I WAS A LEADER IN THE EFFORT TO
STOP THE WAR IN IRAQ. I DID NOT BELIEVE, DICK CHENEY,
JOHN BOLTON NOR PRESIDENT BUSH
THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN HAD WEAPONS
OF MASS DISTRACTION. YOU GO TO THE YOUTUBE, YOU WILL
SEE THE SPEECHES I GAVE. SO I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR
THAT. MORE RECENTLY, AS YOU KNOW, I
LED THE EFFORT IN THE SENATE TO
PASS A RESOLUTION TO GET THE
U.S. OUT OF THE SAUDI-LED
INTERVENTION IN YEMEN. PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON
THERE. IT IS THE WORST HUMANITARIAN
DISASTER ON EARTH. THAT YOU AND TELLS US 200,000
PEOPLE WILL BE DEAD BY THE END
OF THIS YEAR, WOMEN AND
CHILDREN. IF WE DON’T GET A HANDLE ON THAT
WAR, THIS IS BEING LED BY THE
DICTATORSHIP IN SAUDI ARABIA. AMERICA SHOULD BE PART OF THAT? I DON’T THINK SO. RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT
WHO APPEARS, FOR CHANGES HIS
VIEW EVERYDAY, BUT JOHN BOLTON,
HIS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER,
WANTS A WAR WITH IRAN. HOW CRAZY IS THAT? HAVE WE NOT LEARNED ANYTHING
FROM WHAT THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS
ABOUT? ALL THE DISABILITIES ASIAN AND
LOSS OF LIFE WE EXPERIENCED —
ALL THE THE STABILIZATION AND
LOSS OF LIFE WE EXPERIENCED? I DON’T APOLOGIZE FOR TRYING TO
DO ANYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE
.
WARS AND INSTRUCTION AND TRYING
TO REACH DIPLOMATIC RESOLUTIONS. I KNOW THAT IT IS GOOD POLITICS
FOR POLITICIANS WHO SAY, I WILL
BEAT OFF ON THIS ONE AND THAT
ONE — I WILL BE TOUGH ON THIS
ONE OR THAT ONE. BUT IT IS NOT THEIR KIDS GOING
OFF TO WAR OR DYING, NOT THEIR
KIDS. SO, YES. I AM NOT PACIFIST. SOMETIMES WAR IS UNFORTUNATELY
WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY
WHO WILL DO EVERYTHING HE CAN TO
MAKE SURE OUR KIDS ARE NOT DYING
IN THE MIDDLE EAST. I WAS A CHAIRMAN OF THE VETERANS
COMMITTEE. I TALKED TO MANY WHO LOST LOVED
ONES IN WARS WE SHOULD NOT HAVE
BEEN FIGHTING IN. ADAM: IF KIM JONG-UN LAUNCHES A
MISSILE TO THE UNITED STATES,
YOU ARE NOT RESPONDING IN KIND? SEN. SANDERS: I DID NOT SAY
THAT. LET US DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
PREVENT THAT. BY THE WAY, I HAVE CRITICIZED —
NO ONE HAS BEEN MORE CRITICAL OF
DONALD TRUMP AND I HAVE BEEN, ON
SO MANY ISSUES. INCLUDING MANY DISCUSSED THIS
EVENING. BUT I AM NOT CRITICAL OF HIM
SITTING DOWN WITH KI JONG-UN. YOU DO SIT DOWN WITH YOUR
ADVERSARIES EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE
TERRIBLE DICTATORS. I WILL DO THAT AS WELL. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT SOME
RESOLUTION. BY LET US NOT TALK ABOUT WHETHER
OR NOT I HAVE THE COURAGE TO
BLOW UP THE ENTIRE WORLD. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER THAN THAT. WE HAVE TO PREVENT THAT FROM
COMING. ADAM: NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM
RICHARD BRUNO. RICHARD: MY QUESTION IS ABOUT
DARK MONEY I POLITICS. HOW IT INFLUENCES MIDI DECISIONS
MADE IN OUR GOVERNMENT. HOW WOULD YO HANDLE GETTING
SOME OF THAT DARK MONEY OUT? SEN. SANDERS: YOU OFT HEAR,
TALKING ABOUT THE MASSIVE INCOME
INEQUALITY IN AMERICA. THREE FAMILIES WITH MORE WEALTH
THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF AMERICA. THAT IS JUST NOT AN ECONOMIC
ISSUE, IT TRANSLATES INTO
POLITICS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE KOCH
BROTHERS AND OTHER BILLIONAIRES
DO WITH THAT MONEY. THEY SAY, HEY, WE ARE WORTH $50
BILLION, THAT IS NOT ENOUGH. WE DON’T WANT TO PAY ANY TAXES
AT ALL. YOU HAVE A SITUATION NOW WHERE,
LISTEN TO THIS, AMAZON, OWNED BY
THE WEALTHIEST GUY IN THE
COUNTRY, JEF BEZOS, MADE A
BILLION DOLLARS IN PROFITS LAST
YEAR. HOW MUCH DID THEY PAY IN TAXES? ZERO. LESS THAN YOU DO. THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE
THESE PEOPLE HAVE ENORMOUS
POWER. THEY ELECT CANDIDATES WHO FIGHT
TO GIVE TAX BREAKS TO THE
BILLIONAIRES. AND CUT PROGRAMS LIKE HEALTH
CARE OR EDUCATION. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, FOR
A START, WE HAVE TO OVERTURN THE
DISASTROUS CITIZENS UNITED
SUPREME COURT DECISION WHICH
ALLOWS EITHER NEARS TO BUY
ELECTIONS — ALLOWS BILLIONAIRES TO BUY ELECTIONS. I GET ONE VOTE, YOU GET ONE
VOTE. THE KOCH BROTHERS SHOULD NOT BE
ABLE TO SPEND $400 MILLION TO
ELECT CANDIDATES WHO WILL GIVE
TAX BREAKS TO BILLIONAIRES, WHO
WILL CONTINUE THE PATH ON
CLIMATE CHANG NOT ADDRESSING CLIMATE CHANGE, THAT WE ARE IN
RIGHT NOW. THAT IS THE POINT. OVERTURN CITIZENS UNITED. SECOND THING WE HAVE TO DO IS
END VOTER SUPPRESSION. WE HAVE TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR
PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
POLITICAL PROCESS, N HARDER. THIRDLY, WE HAVE TO MOVE PUBLIC
FUNDING ELECTIONS. YOU WANT TO RUN FOR OFFICE AND
YOU ARE NOT WEALTHY, YOU SHOULD
BE ABLE TO AND NOT BE DEPENDENT
ON BIG-MONEY CONTRIBUTIONS. I AM VERY PROUD. I THINK MY CAMPAIGN IN 2016 AND
RIGHT NOW HAS REVOLUTIONIZED THE
WAY THE POLITICS TAKES PLACE IN
AMERICA. IT USED TO BE THE POLITICS WAS
SITTING IN THE LIVING ROOM WITH
A WEALTHY PERSON, COLLECTING A
LOT OF MONEY AND HIRING A
CONSULTANT. TO PUT ADS ON TV LAST TIME, WE
RACED WITH AN AVERAGE
CONTRIBUTION OF $27. I DID NOT SIT IN WEALTHY
PEOPLE’S LIVING ROOMS. I WAS TALKING TO THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE A LOT OF CANDIDATES NOW
UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS THE
RIGHT WAY TO GO. SO WE ARE MAKING SOME
PROGRESS. ADAM: WE WILL LET YOU WRAP UP ON
A QUESTION WE HAVE ASKED A FEW
CANDIDATES WILL HAVE COME OUR
WAY — TELL US ABOUT AN INSTANCE
IN WHICH YOU FACED ADVERSITY IN
YOUR LIFE THAT MADE YOU A BETTER LEADER. SEN. SANDERS: I GREW UP IN A
FAMILY THAT DID NOT MAKE ANY
MONEY. HOW IS THAT FOR ADVERSITY? [LAUGHTER]
SEN. SANDERS: IT IS SOMETHING I
HAVE NEVER FORGOTTEN. I AM NOT LIKE DONA TRUMP. I THINK HIS PARENTS GAVE HIM
$200,000 A YEAR IN ALLOWANCE
WHEN HE WAS A KID. MY FAMILY GAVE ME $.25 WHEN I
WAS A KID A WEEK. I SAW THE STRUGGLE WITHIN MY
FAMILY. MY MOTHER AND FATHER DID THEIR
BEST, BUT WE’D LIVED IN A
RENT-CONTROLLED APARTMENT. EVERY TIME THERE WAS A PURCHASE
OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE, APPEAR OF
DRAPES, A NEW TABLE, THERE WAS
FIGHTING IN THE HOUSE. MY MOTHER’S DREAM IN LIFE WAS TO
GET OUT OF THE APARTMENT AND
FINALLY OWN HER OWN HOME. SHE NEVER ACHIEVE THAT DREAM. KNOWING WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LIVE
PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK. WHAT IT IS LIKE TO WOR WHETHER
OR NOT YOU WILL PAY FOR THE
LIGHT BILL OR PUT GAS IN THE
CAR, THAT IS SOMETHING I DO
KNOW. I KNOW IT IN MY GUTS. I FEEL IT. IT IS WHAT IS GOING ON ALL OVER
THIS COUNTRY. I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO
FAMILIES TO LIVE UNDER THE
STRESS AND FEAR OF, MY GOD, WHAT
HAPPENS IF THAT GETS SICK AND
HAS TO GO TO HOSPITAL? WILL WE GO BANKRUPT? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ARE SAVING
UP TO SEND OUR KIDS TO COLLEGE,
IN THE CAR BROKE DOWN AND BE
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT, WE
NEED A NEW CAR? HERE IS THE STORY. THIS IS WHAT MOTIVATES ME. IS THAT IN THE WEALTHIEST
COUNTRY IN THE HISTORY OF THE
WORLD, HALF OF OUR PEOPLE SHOULD
NOT BE LIVING PAYCHECK TO
PAYCHECK. IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND VERMONT,
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SHOULD NOT
HAVE TO WORK TWO OR THREE JOBS
WHILE THREE FAMILIES OWN MORE
WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF
AMERICA. I KNOW THIS IS NOT TALKED ABOUT
ON TELEVISION VERY MUCH, AND
THERE ARE REASONS FOR THA OK. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE
CAN AND MUST DO WHAT OTHER
COUNTRIES ARE DOING. HEALTH CARE IS A HUMAN RIGHT. MAKING SURE KIDS CAN GO TO
COLLEGE WITHOUT GOING DEEPLY
INTO DEBT IS NOT A RADICAL IDEA. LISTENING TO THE SCIENTISTS IN
ADDRESSING THE CRISIS OF CLIMATE
CHANGE, IN CREATING MILLIONS OF
JOBS IS NOT SOMETHING WE SHOULD
BE DEBATING, IT IS WHAT WE
SHOULD BE DOING. EQUAL PAY FOR EQUAL WORK FOR
WOMEN IS NOT ALSO AN EXTREME
IDEAL. I AM, WHAT MY LIFE HAS BEEN
ABOUT IS GROWING UP IN A
WORKING-CLASS FAMILY. I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN WHERE I
HAVE COME FROM. AND AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES. , THAT BACKGROUND, MY LIFE
EXPERIENCE IS SOMETHING THAT
WILL SHAPE MY POLICIES. ADAM: SENATOR SANDERS, THANK YOU
FOR JOINING US FOR CONVERSATIONS
WITH THE CANDIDATE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE]
THANK YOU FO THE NEW HAMPSHIRE
VOTERS FOR THE QUESTIONS. THEY SURE TO TUNE IN NEXT WEEK
FOR SENATOR MICHAEL BENNET FROM
CO

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