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Here’s Why Nick Kyrgios’ Forehand Is Better Than Yours – PART 2

January 6, 2020


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  • Reply Glen Schneer April 17, 2019 at 5:53 pm

    I appreciate the detailed explanation. I wonder why a 4.0 level player shouldn't try this especially if he wants to get to a 4.5 level forehand?
    Thanks!

  • Reply Sapient Budgie April 17, 2019 at 6:38 pm

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  • Reply Alex Hi April 17, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    Very nice video !!!
    Nate Kyrgios e John Scott … Thank you guys

  • Reply Wally Friend April 17, 2019 at 10:16 pm

    Nice video. I'm a fan of Nicks. I like the forehand but I also have a variant of Fed's forehand. Depending on how slow the ball comes at me, I will also pull back and snap the wrist to get more power on the forehand. The timing is very hard to do on a fast ball but on a rally ball, it's pretty easy. Nick's backhand is pretty dreadful. Form is inconsistent and results are too. I believe if he works on that and his concentration, he could be a much more consistent player. BTW, I'm not gonna lie, Nat's impression of Nick's forehand looks very unnatural and awkward. Stick to Fed.

  • Reply andy iswandy April 17, 2019 at 11:45 pm

    I like it….

  • Reply Akiga Onefive April 18, 2019 at 1:16 am

    K1ngKyrgios is an Nba star who just stepped on the tennis court to teach you style and innovation.

  • Reply BB3 April 18, 2019 at 7:52 am

    Both Sampras & Lendl pulled therir elbow back to initiate their forehands and achieve easy power via a slingshot/ whip-like effect. They just did it with traditional Eastern grips so their swings look more classical, but clearly they used a similar technique to initiate the kinetic chain on their FHs .. which we're among the best of their eras. See this clip:
    https://youtu.be/QLyj8tuZMLM

  • Reply Christian Milon April 18, 2019 at 5:15 pm

    Great stuff ! This really increases the racket speed which creates power. I have been using the Thiem forehand but more and more it seems to resemble a bit nick one. What is the difference between the 2 as far as you see it? Thanks for this great video and yes you did a great job emulating nick! 👍

  • Reply Hanamichi6666 April 19, 2019 at 7:19 am

    where is the part 1? Thanks!

  • Reply peter cheng April 19, 2019 at 11:11 am

    Sock'sforehand is much better than Kyrgios'

  • Reply Adventure victoria April 19, 2019 at 1:17 pm

    Short comment again .. nick does not read opponents or doesn’t mind of strategy game at all during the competition so there isn no way he can get enough time for fancy preparation . He’s shot could be the solution in specific case but should not dominate for most case . Simply it is not revolutionary it’s quite clean and simple reaction we also able to see most of time from Brown as well. One more thing about traditional unit turn is not only beautiful but also the most efficient way to utilise whole body not just specific part if you can endure long terms of practice to make this perfect since it does need few different aspect to be perfect simultaneously.

  • Reply Bee Vang April 19, 2019 at 7:21 pm

    Wats the grip?

  • Reply samr9 April 20, 2019 at 8:25 pm

    I naturally hit my forehand a little like this! Cool to hear you guys approve. Definitely got a lot of racket inversion going on, although after inverting I have the racket behind me, high, vertically pointing toward the sky. From there it drops and I accelerate, creating decent lag. When I get it right, it's pretty great but for now, it's not very consistent. Especially struggling with higher balls or taking them on the rise and timing/contact in front. Any tips? Probably a footwork issue too.

  • Reply rozroz April 22, 2019 at 12:25 pm

    nice videos guys. i am a 4.0 + and my forehand is a very unstable and with low power.
    i was adviced to make an earlier clean traditional racket take back, because these new forehands kinda complicated the clean stroke for me. doesn't the Kyrios FH cause more timing adjustment switching from each position? tnx

  • Reply Marija Brkic April 23, 2019 at 6:12 am

    How can you speak about Nick, that rude person, unpolite, his tallent, everobody has talent, but to be the player you have to have much more than talent, Nick is unfortunally shame for sport and the country he represent, I feel ashame when I have to watchim as his behavior is more tan rude, even the wild annimals do not behave that was, it looks that he did not bring into his life anything from his home and family, usually children from mix marriege are very clever and very polite

  • Reply SoulStatement April 23, 2019 at 6:13 am

    Interesting. I use to have a forehand like this in terms of the take back but I found I couldn’t accurately control the ball if my opponent hit the ball to heavy. Also my forehand got too “big” even when I was trying to hold back and focus on placement. Occasionally I will use this take back if I have time on my shot say my opponent makes a very weak reply or hits a slice that stay up.

  • Reply Yiming Zhang April 23, 2019 at 6:39 am

    The top-level juniors are doing it, somewhat similar to Kyrgios and Kyle Edmond. They spend way more hours on fundamental strokes than anyone here on Internet. If they all discover an optimal form/function through endless hours and intuition. It is the future.

  • Reply Spiros Kabasakalis April 23, 2019 at 8:03 pm

    "Better than ours" would be more appropriate.

  • Reply pr4nk5tr April 23, 2019 at 8:45 pm

    That high takeaway makes it awkward to return low skidding shots though.

  • Reply Jim Parker April 24, 2019 at 8:54 am

    Boy, you weren't kidding that the Kyrgios forehand isn't for everybody. I was practicing the elbow take-back at work, making sure to invert the racket, just like you guys said. I must have leaned in a little too much, and my grip was too loose or something, but the racket flew out of my hand, right through the control room window.
    From there, the spinning racket smacked right into the electric crane holding the fuel rods for the nuclear reactor at the power plant, sending fuel rods crashing to the ground, where they buckled, releasing radioactive gas into the air. We quickly evacuated the plant, but not before the broken zirconium cladding reacted with water in the cooling pond, creating a cloud of hydrogen gas that ignited, causing an enormous explosion and a release of radioactive materials into the environment.
    Luckily, nobody outside the plant noticed, so everything is cool now. Boss says I can't bring my racket to work anymore. Man, the Kyrgios forehand can get you in big trouble! I think I might stick to more of a Connors style now. Easier on the arm, you know?

  • Reply Edwin Arroyo April 25, 2019 at 4:30 am

    Played a little bit of ball there myself. Not quite at the level of tiafoe but …

    Definitely not !

    That’s hurtful
    😂😂😂😂😭😭😭

  • Reply Marko Chulevski April 25, 2019 at 9:39 am

    Probably because he’s played tennis 20 years longer than me

  • Reply Sami Rustum April 25, 2019 at 12:54 pm

    the ginger guy annoying af

  • Reply Ivanatis April 25, 2019 at 8:17 pm

    but my mentality is better than his

  • Reply germanslice April 27, 2019 at 8:40 pm

    Wll I tried this out for the first time on my own today feeding balls for 10 minutes down at the courts. the lengths coming off this Kyrigos swing is ridiculous. Too much power means you gotta spin the ball more faster to get it under control. Or have to drop the power level.

  • Reply Osama Leonour April 29, 2019 at 3:58 am

    What kind of grip does nick uses

  • Reply Nathan Cole April 30, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    Developing fundamental swing and moving mechanics is the way to go rather than just attempting to copy a pros swing. Pros don't hit every ball the same, every ball coming back is different they have to be able to adjust, not thinking about technique, the pieces of their swing they have drilled over years, there is no one swing

  • Reply Nate Hibbz April 30, 2019 at 9:04 pm

    but his forehand is trash

    also the inverting isn't unique to him, Thiem does it as well and he has a waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better FH than Kyrgios

  • Reply flavor flaw May 4, 2019 at 3:20 am

    Why aren't you talking about this guy?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJ4INgHDaE

  • Reply Shpinga let May 6, 2019 at 12:15 pm

    Less blah blah!
    More forehands!

  • Reply John May 7, 2019 at 3:48 am

    It kind of looks like Nick's, but too stiff, without the elastic lag, without the same loose pat-the-dog drop down, without the same hurling of the racket face in the windshield wiper arc. Nate's muscle memory leads unconsciously to more plow through (note when his butt cap faces the net the racket face is more vertical, less horizontal than Kyrgios's, that's the old style), stiffer wrist through the ball, and an impulse to finish over the shoulder, not at the waist, which he tries to hide by pulling the racket down at the end. Kyrgios's racket finishes low because that's the natural arc of his whole shot. I just think there is no point for older generation players to try to imitate the modern so-called ATP forehand. Too hard. It's like getting a sixty-year-old who never threw a baseball to not "throw like a girl". It can't be done. You can tell that Scott and Nate both learned the old style, what's now called the WTA forehand. Nothing wrong with it. They have great forehands. Berdych has the old style. Agassi, Becker had it, and they had great forehands. But once you have the old way in your muscle memory, like these guys, all you can do is imitate the superficial style of the Kyrgios shot without having the real thing. Agassi couldn't imitate it, why should we expect Nate to. You have to start at the age of five with those yellow-orange balls and get used to the incredible elasticity and timing needed for the whole elastic whipping action where you are not so much stroking through the ball as hurling your racket at it. I don't even bother.

  • Reply David Coppock May 7, 2019 at 1:02 pm

    Love the Fed comments!

  • Reply rajeshwar doraisubramania May 11, 2019 at 4:41 am

    Cut u r bla bla

  • Reply Marija Brkic May 17, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    What is wrong you people to even mentiom that rude, bad soul and ugly person

  • Reply Viscious Hattermaid May 27, 2019 at 6:48 pm

    Nate needs his own channel

  • Reply Mohammad Adlan June 15, 2019 at 11:32 pm

    Can u do comparison between nick's forehand and thiem's?

  • Reply Salvador Allende June 26, 2019 at 7:33 pm

    Kyrgios has the behavior of a spoiled child but his forehand style helped me a lot. It feels so natural and allows so much acceleration

  • Reply B June 27, 2019 at 3:37 am

    Scott. Stop eating so many carbs. I can see your belly button through your shirt

  • Reply bartex July 2, 2019 at 2:57 pm

    i don't understand why you want to implement this to more advanced player when he has his own style worked out and it feels natural for him

  • Reply john metyk July 11, 2019 at 12:41 am

    It's exactly like a racquetball forehand to maximize wrist snap and racquet head speed.

  • Reply Tom Mathews August 13, 2019 at 12:15 am

    If Scott Baxter talked less, we could listen to Nate more. Loved the video.

  • Reply Jake August 22, 2019 at 12:17 am

    Just hit forehand slices instead

  • Reply Rizwan Ramzan September 2, 2019 at 6:38 pm

    Question: which forehand is better…Agassi or Nick Kyrgios?

    I like Nick and Agassi..both players are talented….but i think Nick is too complex…but Agassi's forehand is awesome and easier to mimic…

    What do you guys think?

  • Reply Jerry G September 17, 2019 at 2:58 am

    Nick also has that forehand he pulls out every once in a while where the ball's about waist level and just appears to slap the shit out of it, and usually his opponent just watches it go by him for a winner at close to 100mph. I believe that's the one he used to hit at Nadal with. The swing almost looks like a lower level player swing with no top spin on it at all. Just a flat line drive.

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